Bohemian Rhapsody's Terrible Editing - A Breakdown

Thomas Flight
Thomas Flight

John Ottman Editor of Bohemian Rhapsody Responds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy35ZJcxIg8

个月 前
Adam Baldwin
Adam Baldwin

@Powderwombat Frankly, I don't give a crap about awards because I've seen way too many bad movies receive them. As to why we're talking about this scene, well it's the subject of the video, that's why.

17 天 前
Powderwombat
Powderwombat

​@Adam Baldwin It's one scene out of an entire movie... why is everyone so obsessed with this scene? Why not break down some of the good editing like the Live Aid scene. It's like people who never watched the whole movie think the whole thing has terrible editing based on this one scene that everyone keeps obsessing about. It won best editing which is voted on by professional film editors.

17 天 前
Adam Baldwin
Adam Baldwin

While I do think Ottman was being genuine in his response and his account of how "the scene" came to be, watching this again just reinforces how bad the editing is, and while it does appear to be shot fairly poorly, you nicely demonstrated how the scene can be improved using the existing footage. Ironically, Ottman claims the need to cut it down as one of the reasons for the terrible editing, and yet in order to make the scene better, you cut it down even further. I'm going to chop this up to tunnel vision on his part, as he was probably staring at this footage for hundreds by the time he was done with this scene. The cinematography is quite bizarre and rather bad, though. The extremely wide shot thrown in the middle, why did they even film that? It's as if you're filming a several minute-long scene that either starts or ends with a wide shot, but the characters in the shot are all doing things mid-scene. I would love to give Ottman the benefit of the doubt, and I do give him credit for taking responsibility for his editing, but there's no way around it, this scene was a major blunder. And while circumstances and studio pressure no doubt made things difficult, isn't that why you get paid to do the job? I think other editors encounter similar situations all the time, and the truly great ones rise above those problems and get the job done. I really don't mean to be judging Ottman, but I think he could have and should have done a better job.

个月 前
Stuart Lawson Beattie
Stuart Lawson Beattie

My God, you are as crass as the movie. You slag the movie off and then you demonstrate issues by using cartoons and other films. What a crock of robotic thunderously boring mono syllabic nonsense, how in hell did you get 49,000 likes? Sheet, that's a shipload of drugs you are on.

天 前
Jason Gibson
Jason Gibson

Buddy. Get a fucking life. Top movie,. I was at the premiere in Wembley and not one single soul had any issue with editing. Loser!

天 前
Gabriyel Mastrianna
Gabriyel Mastrianna

academy awards are a joke at this point, everybody knows that

天 前
67maxfield
67maxfield

No offense to this guy or the matter at hand, or anyone who’s concerned with said matter, but this is thee most pointless video i’ve ever watched on youtube. Like who gives a F. I got an eye for terrible shit, but this wasn’t even on my radar at all. Also not a huge fan of the movie. In fact, what should be criticized is Rami’s Freddie. Watch Fred’s interviews. They melodramatized thee living shit out of em. Thats the worst part of the movie imo

2 天 前
Kyle Campbell
Kyle Campbell

The Oscars are no longer respectable Disney scams the whole thing, the judges don't even watch the movie they are selecting. The whole thing lost its touch.

2 天 前
SuperRicket
SuperRicket

rumor has it that all band members had to have equal time on screen. that could be tough to edit.

3 天 前
sammiety
sammiety

ngl, a lot of the dialogue scenes gave me headaches :')

3 天 前
ThePumpdog99
ThePumpdog99

While the editing may have been a mess, the movie itself was like watching a sped up A&E Biography on Queen. It lightly touched on many, many subjects, but never completely told the story. The actors were great but the writing/script/direction was off. This was an R rated story made into a PG film

6 天 前
Andrewo Mennah ☣
Andrewo Mennah ☣

Probably it won best editing just for the Live Aid scene, but it was mostly because of Malek, he did a really good job.

7 天 前
Jovis
Jovis

yeah I agree editing and transitioning between scenes is bad IMO

7 天 前
Mostafa Ahmed
Mostafa Ahmed

The movie is gre at

7 天 前
Rover Waters
Rover Waters

Bohemian Rhapsody guitar solo was written by Brian May

7 天 前
Gamemaster 365 6
Gamemaster 365 6

I really don't see what the big deal is that was a good movie and the editing was the way it should be I believe you can't criticize something that you haven't even done yourself

7 天 前
IndieVisualSophie
IndieVisualSophie

Someone told me that sound editing and film editing are similar. If you don’t notice it whilst watching the film, then it’s good.

10 天 前
Pranav Mistry
Pranav Mistry

There are no set rules for a good edit. Rules are a trap and it restricts you. The only thing that matters is sticking to the story and the characters in it. You cannot question an editors decision unless and until you were in that room.

11 天 前
Darkrider6970
Darkrider6970

This youtuber has no clue what he is talking about but presents with a convincing, authoritative tone. He is mostly criticizing stylistic/artistic choices against his own dogmatic standards. There is a reason why Bohemian Rhapsody won the American Cinema Editor's award (voted on my film editors)...some of the scenes in the movie (production of Bohemian Rhapsody, Live Aid Concert) are actually masterclasses in film editing.

4 天 前
Robert Bracey
Robert Bracey

A little knowledge can be dangerous. Your recut does not work very well at all because it fails to deliver what the original did - the original makes the audience increasingly uncomfortable, especially contrasted with the long tracking shot that opens the scene. An audience not familiar with editing will share the feeling of the band, feeling uncomfortable and off-balance, in fact you get this effect if you watch the scene without sound. Knowing something about editing causes you to think it is 'wrong' because it does not conform to basic guidelines. Whether it deserved an Oscar is hard to tell but there is a clear purpose to the editing of this scene.

11 天 前
Daniel Mims
Daniel Mims

I didn't like this movie at all. I wanting Sacha Baron Cohen and the more truthful movie he wanted to make . Cohen looks alot like Freddie and is British . Malek is really good and did good in the role but what could've been..

12 天 前
Aiden G
Aiden G

Might as well just put the camera on a stick and spin it.

12 天 前
rome8180
rome8180

Seems to me this scene suffers from a lot of problems. Uninteresting cinematography and uninspired screenplay are just as significant to me as the editing. And those three things are probably interconnected. If a scene doesn't have a clear sense of purpose and tone, I imagine it's hard to edit it.

12 天 前
TheaterPup
TheaterPup

Yes, it did win. Deal with it.

13 天 前
Donald James
Donald James

don’t have to specify on editing, the movie is entirely terrible

13 天 前
lil fuckin party city clearance section palette
lil fuckin party city clearance section palette

This is some Catwoman-level editing. And we all know how that one was received...

14 天 前
phaederkiel
phaederkiel

Sorry, but i have to disagree with your recut. I think the original is better. I have not seen the movie,all of what i have seen is what you show here. Yet I feel that the nervousness that shows through the second shot of Brian before the two other men are shown is very well expressed in the shot. Everybody needs to look their best, and he checks on them if they are looking good, which we see even before they are shown. I agree with most of the other things you say. The editing is surely flashy, possibly overly so. The shot of three members without Brian could be rooted in the story, though. On one hand, the scene seems to be filmed somewhat from his angle (commenting on mercurys choice of dress, looking if the other guys look good), on the other hand: I would, not knowing anything about the history of queen, surmise that this character gets thrown out of the band in the movie. These three guys are queen, the take seems to say.

15 天 前
Powderwombat
Powderwombat

You are talking about one 90 second scene out of an entire movie. Why not break down some of the good editing like the Live Aid scene or the bathroom sink transition into tv van satellite. It's like people who never watched the whole movie think the whole thing has terrible editing based on this one scene that everyone keeps obsessing about. You're bitching about a 90 second long scene in a movie that's over 2 hours long bro, and claiming "Bohemian Rhapsody has bad editing", meanwhile you describe good editing techniques over footage of Bohemian Rhapsody doing exactly those techniques. What the fuck are you talking about? See the problem isn't really in this analysis, but it's in the presentation such as your stupid video title which is misleading, and idiots who haven't seen the movie or are complete sheep will somehow translate this into thinking the entire movie is this poorly edited. It's not. It won best editing which is voted on by professional film editors who know more about film editing than you do. John Ottman is an oscar winning Hollywood editor and you're a fucking Youtuber.

17 天 前
FonchCakes
FonchCakes

This is so hard to watch lmao. I almost can't believe the movie actually looks this way.

18 天 前
DefinitelyNotaPervert
DefinitelyNotaPervert

I think another issue with the editing of this film is that with the amount of cuts they have, along with the said spatial continuity, it ends up overwhelming the viewers' eyes, and therefore, making them feel tired, dissoriented, and needlessly confused, due to the amount of unnecessary information that's being presented all at once.

19 天 前
Satan Lover13
Satan Lover13

7:22 Your cut is shit the other way is better

20 天 前
Enrique
Enrique

At the very least the grading is good

20 天 前
Jake Marko
Jake Marko

The Academy responds to lobbying and box office more than quality. Alot like Washington does with donors and special interest.

22 天 前
Elmo Jedburgh
Elmo Jedburgh

This Movie Is The Definition Of BULLSHIT

23 天 前
Mat Dub
Mat Dub

Freddy Mercury was pretty awesome so let's give the movie a lot of awards.

24 天 前
6yu Dalgıç
6yu Dalgıç

Bj

25 天 前
Gamefreak974
Gamefreak974

I think he did this smart. Kept interest. Honestly if this was shot normally it’d probably get boring and I’d get lost in the background.

25 天 前
anna feretzaki
anna feretzaki

Come on you didn't like it!!!! It was amazing

29 天 前
Theo
Theo

Dude such an awesome analysis

个月 前
The Manhands
The Manhands

Now that I've seen the original along with John Ottman's response, I think it would be really easy for him to be more defensive. This is direct, candid criticism from a YOUTUBER (sarcasm) of a professional who is clearly accomplished. But that doesn't make you wrong. Your changes are an improvement, maybe even objectively. I wish he had acknowledged that. Also, his ad hominem about your voice and speaking style was definitely NOT professsional.

个月 前
Meg ôwô
Meg ôwô

god the movie was so damn confusing and flip flopping all over the place, fuck it

个月 前
bargh70
bargh70

I didn't know what I didn't like l about this movie but I had a feeling there was definitely something. Editing. Yep.

个月 前
ledepi34
ledepi34

*People must realize this: Me, as example. I would not mind this movie winning the Oscar if it had only one bad edited scene. I would not mind if it had only two bad scenes either.*

个月 前
Rosen Bar
Rosen Bar

This is the most fascinating video I’ve seen in some time. Thank u 4 explaining to the public. (And I loved the movie!)

个月 前
badluckkennedy
badluckkennedy

it doesnt look like freddy mercury, it looks like raimi malek in a wig and false teeth, not to mention the movie was directed by a convicted pedophile

个月 前
murtadha96
murtadha96

Brilliant analysis

个月 前
kuntexterminator
kuntexterminator

I hated the parts where it just showed characters tilting their heads and staring blankly.

个月 前
Ben Sagal-Morris
Ben Sagal-Morris

Compare this movie’s editing to Goodfellas’ editing, and you’ll see why this editing sucks.

个月 前
John Bailey
John Bailey

Thanks brian singer

个月 前
Max Isola
Max Isola

I would say that Edgar Wright’s movies are the best examples of having editing that is noticeable, but still great.

个月 前
Cyberlife Child
Cyberlife Child

Okay I understand but this is the best movie to be made in my opinion.

个月 前
ItsBadgerr
ItsBadgerr

okay, the movie was supposed to be about an important man’s life time, he is a legend, and they have to get the movie in less than a couple hours. They are going to have to cut out a lot of things, they have to get the basics. You people can not be mad about everything that is left out because the band had done a lot during this time. You people need to be grateful that John, Roger, and Brian agreed to do this film. There were A LOT of excellent editing in this movie and you are telling a group of people that this movie has terrible editing, what a shame. And you must not have anything to do in your life if you are going to nitpick their editing mistakes. Did you actually see the Live Aid scene? Did you see the camera angle? Did you see the camera angles and movement throughout the movie? And since you had all the time to nitpick these mistakes J hope you realize that their editing skills mixed the actors voice and the group of the actual band’s voice together. Just wow, ungrateful.

个月 前
Big Boss Sam
Big Boss Sam

Disco Deacy you really thought writing out this long paragraph would make the editing any less bad

个月 前
Gordon Antell
Gordon Antell

This is from somebody who isn't a Film Editor or has ever worked on a Studio film. Utter garbage from an armchair critic.

个月 前
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad

You don't need to be a filmmaker to recognize bad editing; you base your judgment on the standard other filmmakers have set

个月 前

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